![]() ![]() We get the classic detuning effect achieved by the 2 VCO+some subtle overtones due to ringmod and increased perceived "fattness" in the sound. After that I detune slightly the second VCO manually then with a slow triangle LFO to get a cyclic movement. I start with VCO 1 (highest), add second lower VCO quickly after then add the ringmod of both into the mix (at roughly 25 sec), on top of the oscillators. I went for this example because I find the final sound pretty fat, warm & pleasing AND playable -which is more or less the opposite of traditional ringmod crap that tends to be nonsense noisy, thin and harsch stuffĢ triangle VCO, one 1 octave below the 1st and tightly tuned (almost perfect tune but not perfect, still). Here's just one (counter)example that I quite like and which consist in simply mixing the ringmoded signal with its sources. Thing is that RingMod is often, wrongly, taken on its own. Could you give a patch example? I haven’t been able to get much out of ring modulation. With some effort in tuning the carrier and modulator and applying further modulation upfront (using VCA's for ex of filtered sources) I find it more versatile, fun and probably surprising than wavefolders. I think the same basic thing is going on with the wavefolding version- I'll try to record a demo of it this weekend. Then as it goes thru zero with a positive envelope, it flips its phase and gets loud and when this repeats, the phase inversion sounds like it's reflecting off of something. ![]() So if you listen to it during this phase, it will be quiet. The wavefolder version is beyond my imagining.īecause it's "open" at the start with the slightly negative offset. Whoahhh, how does the poor man’s reverb work, in both cases? A negative offset + positive envelope starts briefly negative, which-when controlling a VCA-would attenuate an audio signal briefly, then amplify it, then attenuate it briefly at its end, right? I have definitely done it on the 0-Coast. Wavefolders are great too and sometimes can also be used to patch the "poor man's reverb", but it's a little more difficult to work out. Filter ping + white noise in a ring mod is one of my favorite snare drum patches. If you ring mod a signal with itself, it creates an octave-up effect. If you mix a slight negative offset with a positive envelope, it creates a "poor man's reverb" as I learned from Rob Hordijk. Like others have said it's more useful than you might imagine (especially if it's DC coupled) so you can use it as a bipolar VCA. I would never be making this decision because my vote would always be a bigger case that has all the modules I need, but ring mod. But I can keep both the RM and the wavefolder if I only have two VCAs. My primary preference is to have four VCAs, whereby either the RM or the wavefolder will have to go. It's a neat coincidence that you mentioned VCAs, as that's what I'm weighing this choice against. I don't have any specific kinds of sounds in mind, just to have enough core synthesis tools to make it fun and reasonably full-featured. The main purpose of this instrument is to be a standalone synthesis sandbox, and be small and focused. I'm all for "both" as well, but this exercise is applying to a modular instrument that I'm putting the finishing touches on, where I may not have that choice due to space constraints. ![]() What sounds do you hope to make/what's the synth's role? Lin FM and PWM can get you in the ballpark, but sometimes you need a folder. You can get sounds like RM via AM or filter FM, but certain wavefolder sounds are harder to find equivalents for. I now use wavefolding less for making mono-voices and more for feedback and distortion. I think this is a 'both' vote, but you don't have that option I like both. ![]()
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